I took this photo at the WTC on 1/23/02. It was obvious to me then, that to reinforce, or join a steel "I" beam the gusset plate should be of the same thickness or strength as the "I" beam you are joining
otherwise you get the "weak link" syndrome. I was there with John Vigiano at the time and I pointed it out to him. However we are both fireman and not learnard engineers.
I don't know if that is the same problem that was just found, but it looks the same to me. See the "WTC Girder is a Key to Collapse Puzzle" The whole place was a crime scene and in my opinion they were in a big hurry to get rid of all the evidance. (Don)

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